Chief Ouray Gun Club
Meeting Minutes – REGULAR Meeting
01.21.13 6:30 pm
Location: Ouray Baptist Church, Ouray
Meeting called to order at 6:37pm
Regular club officers present Dave Coleman, Gayle Buske, Barbara Cole, Bob Cole, Bob Morss, Mike Fedel, Mike Ardoin
Not present: None
General members present: Jim Buske, John Tjossem, John Noell, Ted Toms, Stuart Middleton-White, Sheriff Junior Mattivi, Susan Maybach, Roger Brower, Carol Brower, Madison Buske
Non members present: John Nelson, Linda Nelson, Bette Maurer, Pete Whiskeman, Donna Whiskeman, Annamarie Bauer, LuAnn Parden
Minutes: Minutes from 11.19.12 were approved with no changes.
Special Gun Control Presentation by Ouray County Sheriff Junior Mattivi: Sheriff Mattivi started by explaining some of what Obama is trying to do in the way of gun control. i.e. limit of 10 round magazines. Mattivi stated that “the first thing he will do is go buy 6 – 10-round magazines!”. Mattivi added that “magazine size limits are ludicrous”. The sheriff then gave examples of the guns the federal government might qualify as assault weapons. He also pointed out the ridiculousness of it as he had two examples of guns that both had the exact same functions but one was black and the other was not. The black one would be considered an “assault weapon”, most likely. Mattivi was unsure who would do mental health checks and who would pay for that. He added that “I am sworn to uphold the Constitution and I will support the Constitution. If I am asked to collect guns, I will not do it.” He added that he is a supporter of the Second Amendment and Concealed Carry [for responsible citizens]. In his time as Sheriff he has only denied and/or revoked a couple Concealed Handgun Permits and those were due to either complete stupidity on the part of the licensee or to domestic abuse issues. Mattivi sited many gun violence and murder statistics, the US ranking lower than most other countries, including those who had instituted gun bans. When asked if Mattivi saw the executive orders on gun control as unconstitutional, he agreed that they were. He also stated that he has consulted his attorney about his authority as Sheriff to refuse to collect guns and he is well within his bounds to do so. When asked if he would refuse access to the county to federal agents looking to do the same, he waivered somewhat by saying that he would “let them go on that suicide mission by themselves”. When an FFL dealer asked if she could refuse to collect guns (as there is some talk that the federal government would use FFLs as their vehicle for gun confiscation), would Mattivi have her back in refusal to accept those weapons. Mattivi stated that he thought she would be within her rights to do so. Mattivi was presented with a list of 50+ sheriffs across the country (four of which are in Colorado) who have pledged their refusal to confiscate guns and/or uphold these or any new gun control laws. Mattivi stated he would get his name on the list as well. Mattivi has told his deputies that their office will not collect guns. Mattivi was asked if concealed handgun permit holders were submitted to any kind of state or national database. They were previously submitted by his office but he has “pulled back from doing that” recently because he feels they don’t need to know who has CHPs. One audience member asked if you had to disclose a gun type to get a CHP. Mattivi stated they did not. That their CHP is good for any handgun they wish to carry.
President’s report by Bob Morss
1. Trackhoe is at the range and will be searching for best price on dumpsters and getting the building down “any day now”
2. Today is Dave Coleman’s birthday. Everyone wished him happy birthday and Barbara Cole shared brownies with the group
Treasurer’s report by Barbara Cole
Account balance: $11,305.00
Bills: Approved $1,727 to federal government and $523 to state for taxes from 2004 - 2012
Income: $0 in memberships, $200 donation from John Noell was recognized. Making new balance after taxes and donation $9,255.00
Treasurer’s report accepted.
Reports of committees
Membership Committee Report (Bob, Dave, Gayle, Jim, Mike A) No report but the membership committee needs to get the membership letters out for 2013-14. This will be done at next regular meeting.
Goals Committee Report (Bob, Bob, Barbara, Gayle, Mike A, Jim, Mike F)
No meeting, but committee needs to meet to formulate 2013 budget. This will be done at next regular meeting.
Women On Target Committee Report (Gayle B, Mike A, Bob C, Bob M, Jim B, Barbara C, Dave C, John Y)
No meeting, but one is scheduled for February 11 at 5:30 to determine the format, etc. for 2013 WOT
Special Shoot Committee Report (Bob Morss, Bob Cole, Barbara Cole, Jim, Mike F, Mike A)
No meeting/no report
Hunter’s Safety Committee Report (John Tjossem)
Nothing to report
a) Range is in need of scrap plywood for target backdrops. See Bob Cole if you have any
b) Board considered Montrose Gun Club’s request to hold WOT in Montrose for 2013 and voted unanimously not to do so.
Pending to-do items
1) Get rid of building. $3000 approved in 2012 budget to accomplish
2) Finish rifle station $1500 was approved at Sept 2011 meeting
b. Cover for rifle station
3) Revise SOPs
4) Weeds - ongoing
5) Post signs on each lane noting what the lane is approved for (i.e. pistol only on north range, etc.)
6) New gate – add to master plan
7) Mike Fedel will try to get the range plan done
8) Sign for gate
9) Web cams for range (x4): gate, each range lane
10) Marty Flowers—4H kids use of range? (Gayle)
a. Liability waivers from parents;
b. Clean up after use;
c. Kids assist with range events (i.e. clean up days, WOT, shoots, etc.)
d. Why expelled from Montrose range?
e. Parents members of club?
f. Student to instructor ratio;
g. Gayle will sit down with Marty this winter to discuss all aspects and come up with a plan to present to the board. Marty will be heading this up as opposed to Rod Hodge.
12) We may have another option for a place to hold the Monster Gun Extravaganza. Gayle will check on this later in November.
13) Robert McGowan has about 1000 feet of drill pipe that he’d like to donate to the gun club. Ideas included using it to build shooting benches, hand rails and target stands. Robert will look at the range and come up with better ideas to be presented at the October meeting. The club is grateful for his generous offer and donation.
a) Annual Meeting is April 27 at the range
b) Concealed Handgun Class February 9 or March 9, See Gayle Buske
Adjournment: Meeting was adjourned at 8:22 pm.
Gayle Buske, Secretary
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